The voice of the farrier.
Report of the FRC meeting on Thursday 6th November 2003 at 10.30 am at the General Dental Council, 37 Wimpole Street, London.
Present (public): Martin Humphrey
Present (council): Chairman was Brigadier Jepson in the absence of Miss Clayton
Item 1 Apologies for absence
I arrived a little late about 10.50 during item 4.
A matter raised by James Todd: a DC case had been scheduled for December, it was felt that a vet should be on the DC however Harris was unavailable so it was proposed to draft in Jepson who was on the PIC but had been absent when the case was heard though he would have had the papers. The general feeling was that it was better not to do this and if there was a difficulty then appropriate professional advice could be sought. In the event the case was postponed to January when Harris was available anyway. WN said that a case had to be postponed recently and reconvened with a whole new DC because papers were made available which should not have been and the barrister objected.
5.(i) Colonel Bevan is coming on to the FRC to replace Jepson at the
Feb/March Council Meeting.
6.1 Major item is budget – FRC in balance, FTS in profit.
6.2 Registration Committee Minutes (Chairman Brig Roache)
6.3 Investigating Committee have had 2 meetings 15/7 2 old cases re-examined,
one due to a complainant not happy with previous decision, one that had
been referred back by the solicitors, both closed, 3 new cases closed.
4/10 1 case closed, 1 case deferred to January meeting.
6.4 JFTC – Cecil Swan absent. Apprentices working with other ATFs
– JFTC recommend that it should normally be for no more than 1 month
7.1 Cove bid (Certificate of Vocational Excellence)– approved interim status for first year – do not yet have contract from LSC – have £300,000 in bills to pay by end of March 2004, the biggest expense being a new coke forge at Warwick which has not yet got planning permission. Described as a “Landmark for Farriery”.
7.2 Farriery Training Quality Enhancement Measures. Drawdown of money has been slow – may have surplus this year. LSC owe £330,000 to the FTS at present. Request from Army for money for Master and Apprentice shoeing competition - turned down. Haydn Price is proposing a DWCF crammer course – asked for money – turned down but agreed to extend the CPD grants of 50% plus 20p per mile which are currently available to ATFs to apprentices also, to be reviewed in 12 months time. There is a Nafbae welfare advice line apparently, also learning support for apprentices. Free weekend workshops. There are concerns about the quality of many ATF’s.
7.3 Field Officer Update – 14 offers made – difficulty is geography – distribution of officers and clients – may be a lot of travelling for some. 24/6 November 3 training days.
7.4 Defra – have held meetings, Nafbae have been along, there is another on 1/12 /3 about “where do we want the horse industry to be in 10 years time. Modern Apprentices can now be 25 when they start.
8.1 is there a clear distinction between the roles of regulation, training and examination? Agreed that there is – should the frc carry out a feasibility study to see how they can be separated – funding agreed. Terms of reference – consider, report, recommendations, strategy, timescale – steering group agreed with 4 individuals names not spoken
8.2 dates proposed for 2004 18/8 august “meeting magic” workshop to discuss registration matters (not cheap)
Any Other Business Terry Hargreaves had received a complaint from a farrier
whose apprentice had left him and whose letter he had copies of which
had intended to place before the meeting but his was not permitted in
case of prejudicing possible future proceedings. There was some discussion
about the ethics of apprentices changing masters. At present there is
a 3 way legal agreement. If an apprentice leaves, what comeback does the
master have? An apprentice can be prevented working elsewhere if there
are welfare issues, otherwise there would be legal issues if the FTS stood
in the way. A master can make a civil claim for breach of contract, or
make a complaint against the other master of professional misconduct.
Hargreaves did not press the farriers grievance with any conviction, it
was plain that he was only raising the matter because he was obliged to
do so, and professed himself satisfied with the outcome of the discussion
such as it was.
I asked Brigadier Jepson for a copy of the papers referred to in the Agenda (white, cream, pink, lemon, salmon, blue, lemon, blue, green, grey, salmon, lilac) and he said he would raise it at the afternoon (closed) session. To date (23/11/2003) I have heard or received nothing.
Martin Humphrey 10.11.03